Best 27" 1440p 165hz monitor?

#1
I've been gaming on a 24" BenQ 1080p 144hz 1ms TN for about 6 years, it was one of the first 144hz panels to come out.
I recently decided to 'upgrade', I couldn't resist the 3440x1440 Ultrawide monitors. But being out of my budget I had to go with a Korean brand monitor off ebay.
I ended up buying a:
Crossover UW3535 TIO 35" 3440x1440 100hz (120hz boost clock) VA panel Curved
They claim 100% sRGB Response Time : 4ms (OD) Brightness : 300 cd/m² Contrast Ratio : 2500 : 1
Coming from a 144hz 1ms TN panel to a 120hz 4ms VA panel is very disappointing. The black smearing in dark scene is terrible. The ghosting is too noticeable. It's too bad because this ultrawide format is amazing, it will be hard to go back to 16:9 but I just don't think the technology is there yet with UWQHD.
So I will hold off on ultrawides until I can find a 144hz+ 1ms ips panel or a VA panel that doesn't black smear (ASUS PG35VQ?), but they will be out of my price range for awhile.

That leaves me with 27" 2560x1440 165hz monitors! My question to you guys is, which one of these monitors is overall the best in terms of
Color accuracy, response time, input lag, contrast, ghosting, IPS glow, etc..

Acer XB270HU 16:9 IPS 27" 2560x1440 144 Hz G-Sync ULMB
Asus ROG Swift PG279Q 16:9 IPS 27" 2560x1440 165 Hz G-Sync ULMB
Viewsonic XG2703-GS 16:9 IPS 27" 2560x1440 165 Hz G-Sync ULMB
AOC AGON AG271QG 16:9 IPS 27" 2560x1440 165 Hz G-Sync ULMB
Acer Predator XB271HU 16:9 IPS 27" 2560x1440 165 Hz G-Sync ULMN
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q 16:9 TN 27" 2560x1440 144 Hz G-Sync ULMB
Dell S2716DG 16:9 TN 27" 2560x1440 144 Hz G-Sync ULMB
Asus ROG Swift PG27VQ 16:9 TN 27" 2560x1440 165 Hz G-Sync ULMB
Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 16:9 TN 27" 2560x1440 165 Hz G-Sync ULMB
Acer Predator XB271HUA 16:9 TN 27" 2560x1440 165 Hz G-Sync ULMB

Re: Best 27" 1440p 165hz monitor?

#3
Sorry mate for the late response, just the forum is pretty "small" and I have to answer every single question, since people who found a solution probably are not visiting the forum anymore.
So I will hold off on ultrawides until I can find a 144hz+ 1ms ips panel or a VA panel that doesn't black smear (ASUS PG35VQ?), but they will be out of my price range for awhile.
Even the 200Hz VA ultrawides (on Ultrawide FULL HD) have issues with smearing, unfortunately. The PG35VQ probably will be the best choice with its direct led dimming zones

That leaves me with 27" 2560x1440 165hz monitors! My question to you guys is, which one of these monitors is overall the best in terms of Color accuracy, response time, input lag, contrast, ghosting, IPS glow, etc..
Acer XB270HU 16:9 IPS 27" 2560x1440 144 Hz G-Sync ULMB Dont know
Asus ROG Swift PG279Q 16:9 IPS 27" 2560x1440 165 Hz G-Sync ULMB No simply because of the panel frame construction and most IPS glow issues overall
Viewsonic XG2703-GS 16:9 IPS 27" 2560x1440 165 Hz G-Sync ULMB Yes
AOC AGON AG271QG 16:9 IPS 27" 2560x1440 165 Hz G-Sync ULMB Maybe
Acer Predator XB271HU 16:9 IPS 27" 2560x1440 165 Hz G-Sync ULMN Yes
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q 16:9 TN 27" 2560x1440 144 Hz G-Sync ULMB Yes The same as the PG278QR just without HDMI port
Dell S2716DG 16:9 TN 27" 2560x1440 144 Hz G-Sync ULMB Maybe the Dell has pertty "huge" color banding issues which means in darker image content and gradients you will observe a lot ot artifacts
Asus ROG Swift PG27VQ 16:9 TN 27" 2560x1440 165 Hz G-Sync ULMB No
Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 16:9 TN 27" 2560x1440 165 Hz G-Sync ULMB Yes as long as you can deal with gamma shift in viewing angles + the very very matte panel coating
Acer Predator XB271HUA 16:9 TN 27" 2560x1440 165 Hz G-Sync ULMB Maybe same coating as the PG278QR but worse OSD settings, constrast and sharpness issues (lottery)

I personally would go for the PG278QR if you want the best response time and with the XB271HU or the Viewsonic XG-2703-GS if you want the best overall picture quality. Consider, to get used to the IPS Glow is pretty hard in the beginning, especially when you have used TN for several years. The Acer and the Viewsonic probably both have the fewest "risk" but the lottery still is present in currently all IPS (gaming) monitors.

Re: Best 27" 1440p 165hz monitor?

#4
Thanks a lot man, appreciate your response. Just want to say I enjoy your videos, took me too long to find actual proper reviews on monitors, not just someone reading off spec sheets.
I am definitely leaning more towards the PG278QR now. Everyone is saying TN panels have come along way in terms of color reproduction.

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#5
Everyone is saying TN panels have come along way in terms of color reproduction.
Well, there is one thing I really cannot understand from other reviewers. That "huge" difference between the PG278QR and a GOOD 144Hz Full HD monitor (unlike the Asus VG248QE or the BenQ xl2411) in colors does not really exist. Current 144Hz Freesync models even have less clouding issues than ALL current WQHD high refresh rate panels with G-Sync. They talking about "wooooooah I have never seen a TN panel with SUCH GOOD colors" (go click on my affiliates and buy this!!!!!!!!) No. The PG278QR is not bad, and in my opinion the best WQHD G-Sync 144+Hz panel right now, but what they are talking about colors is pure ignorance. Yes, the screen also is sharper so it has an overall better image quality. The PG278QR has good default settings, that is probably also a reason why colors just pop more than on screens with bad gamma settings (example: If you got a monitor with default gamma settings 1.6/1.7 or even 1.8 and you set proper gamma settings to 2.2, colors INCREASES simply drastically)

Overall they aren't really much better. I really don't know which panels they have used before, but everyone who has a bit more knowledge into displays will tell you the same :)

Re: Best 27" 1440p 165hz monitor?

#8
yarrick10 wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 20:07
I'm asking myself same questions about PG278QR and finally i just ordered the XB271HU today....

I don't know if i did the good choice... I just hope that i won't have any panel's issues and see a real difference when i'll push the power button (because of the price)...
Please report back with your experience. Id like to hear if you have any issues. What type of monitor were you using before?

Re: Best 27" 1440p 165hz monitor?

#9
Yes sure.

If no delivery problems i'll pick the monitor tomorrow...

I used an LG 34UM65 monitor before my future XB271HUbmiprz.
34'', IPS panel, 21/9, 60hz and 2560x1080...
I don't know if I'll see differences. I mean with colors and hz... Because with 1440p I'm pretty sure that i'll see a big difference :)

Let's see in 24 hours :P

Re: Best 27" 1440p 165hz monitor?

#10
You should notice that the Acer XB271HUA (WITH TN) has the SAME panel coating as the Asus for a better price with some (smaller) downsides compared to the PG278QR (mentioned in the review) but overall the Acer has
- my unit a tiny bit worse blacks
- same amount of clouding as same as the S2716DG
- worse gamma settings (so for console a bigger problem)
- a worse OSD

The Acer XB271HU is a fantasytic monitor, if you get a good unit with good sharpness settings (you can test this with the lagoon test http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/sharpness.php) Keep in mind that probably no panel will have "perfect" sharpness settings on the lagoom test. Most Viewsonic, Acer and AOC IPS models have a bit too less native sharpness settings.

However, the matte panel coating on the PG278QR is not a BIG deal when only playing games, but on the desktop it is simply horrible (for me personally) there are a lot of ppl who even cannot see this "issue"

Re: Best 27" 1440p 165hz monitor?

#11
I got the XB271HU Acer instead. It is 1440p 165hz ips 27".
The coating on the panel is not so bad, it does pick up a bit of glare from light sources and windows but I can manage that.
The ips glow to me is barely noticeable so I am not bothered by it.
The ghosting, response time is amazing I can barely tell a difference from my 144hz TN panel. And what a difference from VA wow. I absolutely hate VA panels, I will never buy one again.
The colors are the biggest difference for me obviously coming from TN, they really pop and with 1440p it makes the game almost jump out of the screen.
All in all the XB271HU is an amazing panel and I highly recommend it, my only con is that it's not Ultrawide. After using an ultrawide, 16:9 has become underwhelming. I miss the immersion.

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#12
I absolutely hate VA panels, I will never buy one again.
Hmm (: I don't hate them, especially not in TVs, but yeah, overall they have more smearing/motion blur

All in all the XB271HU is an amazing panel and I highly recommend it, my only con is that it's not Ultrawide. After using an ultrawide, 16:9 has become underwhelming. I miss the immersion.
For sure you will get used to is, and you will reach more FPS ;P It is good to hear that you have a good unit without many IPS glow. Happy fragging then ... :)

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